tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9728880.post2639088946981058037..comments2024-03-27T12:30:52.619-04:00Comments on Lost in the Bozone: A Kind of Back Handed ComplimentMRMacrumhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/01414173517957120477noreply@blogger.comBlogger13125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9728880.post-47028056085579863242011-10-16T23:06:18.176-04:002011-10-16T23:06:18.176-04:00Thanks for the post. When I first found this pictu...Thanks for the post. When I first found this picture on the internet, I assumed it was real. Being a Christian academic (Ph.D.) I occasionally run into some anti-thinking type Christians. However, when I discovered that one could generate fake church signs, I grew suspicious. <br />BTW, the possessive of "it" is not "it's" but is "its" (without the apostrophe). "It's" is the contraction of "it is." I thought I'd point this out in case you wanted to correct them in your post.<br />Regards,<br />Richard G. Howe<br />http://richardghowe.comRichard G. Howehttp://richardghowe.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9728880.post-48392182483786034742009-11-20T02:00:47.944-05:002009-11-20T02:00:47.944-05:00I emailed the church - they replied and confirmed ...I emailed the church - they replied and confirmed the sign is genuine. The picture is not a fake.Unknownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16650666810032293580noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9728880.post-14147926908763687842009-05-30T08:38:37.345-04:002009-05-30T08:38:37.345-04:00Anonymous 1 - The fact that the quote may have bee...Anonymous 1 - The fact that the quote may have been passed down from Martin Luther does not make the quote worth any more than if George down to the hardware store said it. It reinforces the negative image many people have of the mindsets of religion in general.<br /><br />Anonymous 2 - What an odd snippet to pull out of the post. I re-read it and saw no indication I voiced an opinion on caring or not caring whether someone went to college. Just sharing demographic information. <br /><br />The fact that I blog indicates I have nothing better to do. What's your point? As to my reality - Obviously it does not meet your idea of reality. The sign is nonsense and your explanation (read justification) does nothing to elevate it beyond that level.MRMacrumhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01414173517957120477noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9728880.post-51054492272452515792009-05-21T20:30:47.975-04:002009-05-21T20:30:47.975-04:00Why do you care weather or not someone went to col...Why do you care weather or not someone went to college? I personal think some; who spent half their adult live getting all their degrees, thinks this makes them Einstein. In reality you have nothing better to do than to criticize a church sign or someone’s religious believes. The sign was not intended to cause controversy for those that have nothing to do. It was intended for those that read the sign and think upon it. For instance how you try to reason something that is not right, in which you consciously know it’s not right and in some know in their faith it’s not right.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9728880.post-74215345937285829222009-05-18T22:27:00.000-04:002009-05-18T22:27:00.000-04:00The message on the sign is part of a quote from Ma...The message on the sign is part of a quote from Martin Luther. You can find it on his WikiQuote page.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9728880.post-16013649588111046552009-04-01T13:24:00.000-04:002009-04-01T13:24:00.000-04:00BBC - It is not a simple matter of being brainwash...BBC - It is not a simple matter of being brainwashed. Faith in something bigger than ourselves is an understandable residual of intelligence in my opinion. I will say though, much of organized religion is aimed at brain washing. But so can efforts of any group interested in convincing another turn into gruel for the brain. Religion is not the only schoold of thought guilty of this.<BR/><BR/>Kulkiri - Tejas? Where's that?<BR/><BR/>Randal - I have one church 300 yards away. It is a Congregational Church. They are mostly harmless. The pastor's blog though is "invite only". Hmm.<BR/><BR/>Linda McGeary - No Linda I think you are right. Sensible relgious adherents start with the leap of fatih and then tend to use reason to support their take. Absolutists on the other hand can be all over the place.<BR/><BR/>Bill - Yes, there are old school fundie eye for eye types who take literal meaning with them when they close the Bible for the day. But hands down, most of the folks I know who go to church on a regular basis have within them the ability to seperate their "faith" from the realities of science. Maybe it is just the region in which I live.<BR/><BR/>Old Dude - Open to interpretation?MRMacrumhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01414173517957120477noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9728880.post-21798241015573499142009-04-01T00:13:00.000-04:002009-04-01T00:13:00.000-04:00Well its obvious the sign in question is a listing...Well its obvious the sign in question is a listing of that weeks sermon---and thus subject to interpretation, its not a permenent sign, therefore no record of it, aside from the pic you have posted. As for interpretating its meaning, well its not worth my time---I'm an agnostic.Gary ("Old Dude")https://www.blogger.com/profile/00840287762340872772noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9728880.post-47141185063157164792009-03-31T21:55:00.000-04:002009-03-31T21:55:00.000-04:00I've been seeing this debate around in right-wing ...I've been seeing this debate around in right-wing Christian circles for a long time. Why do you think science is considered to be such a threat by fundamentalist Christians?<BR/>I have contended for a long time, though, that this kind of faith has an enemy even greater than reason - truth. Right-wingers basically hold that truth is a worldly thing, all relative, and that the only meaningful truth is the Bible. There are so many different churches because there are so many different ways to interpret the Bible. Reason is what proves that any particular interpretation is incorrect so of course, reason is the enemy of any false belief.Billhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14063572332177649195noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9728880.post-59507596734790206122009-03-31T21:02:00.000-04:002009-03-31T21:02:00.000-04:00I'd say the real enemy of faith 'and reason' is ha...<B>I'd say the real enemy of faith 'and reason' is hatred and fear.</B><BR/><BR/>No, the real enemy of faith is religions.BBChttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15323188240580782454noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9728880.post-58200395641334108342009-03-31T18:59:00.000-04:002009-03-31T18:59:00.000-04:00I don't think even God would agree with that sign,...I don't think even God would agree with that sign, for in Isaiah's first chapter it says..."Come let us reason together, says the Lord."<BR/>From what I understand of scripture God is intelligence and love.<BR/>I see no argument between reason and faith. One is head and one is heart. Intellect and emotion. That's what being human is, I don't see how they can be separated and still be a healthy whole person. That idea seems like a silly impossibility.<BR/><BR/>People don't have to belong to a religion, or go to a church to have faith in a sustaining, supporting life force. (God - if you want to call it that.) Or to be a good person, having integrity, and compassion for the human race and the earth.<BR/><BR/>For me I attend church because a community of like minded people can do more together in the way of helping service than one person alone.<BR/><BR/>I think it's a shame, that when so many religions, at their core are basically teaching very similar enduring principles that those of us who claim to believe can't seem to value the diversity in the world, without judgement and condemnation, even to the point of wanting to wipe the ones who act different or look different, or talk different.<BR/><BR/>I'd say the real enemy of faith 'and reason' is hatred and fear.Linda McGearyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03018571975106229102noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9728880.post-41951683572666170292009-03-31T14:21:00.000-04:002009-03-31T14:21:00.000-04:00I think I'm kind of on your side. Even the most ha...I think I'm kind of on your side. Even the most hardcore fundie likely wouldn't put that sign up, but, and it's a big, giant, colossal ass, they certainly subscribe to that view, that reason, our reason - you know, "reason" - is the enemy of Faith In Super Jesus. <BR/><BR/>Hell, I live in the bluest county of Ohio and within 10 minutes of walking distance of my house there are about four churches.Randal Graveshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08728992897551848531noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9728880.post-30558589685616798602009-03-31T12:45:00.000-04:002009-03-31T12:45:00.000-04:00I don't doubt the sign is real. When you're think...I don't doubt the sign is real. When you're thinking in one direction, you don't think of all the different ways something can be taken and sometimes the truth sneaks out!!<BR/>As for churches, in Uncle John's Bathroom Reader it said that Tejas has over 13,000 churches. The Kid said that one of her co-workers was looking for a church after his family moved to the area. One Sunday when his typical nuclear family went to one church, they doubled the attendance. She asked me why are there so many churches?? Is it because they don't want to drive very far to go to church?? I told her it was because none of them could agree on what their bible says.Kulkurihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09198195648066700925noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9728880.post-39053591737021195082009-03-31T12:22:00.000-04:002009-03-31T12:22:00.000-04:00why the Hell are there so many churches in one cou...<B>why the Hell are there so many churches in one county?</B><BR/><BR/>Simple, lots of brainwashed folks there. Don't run into many of those types when I'm camping. <BR/><BR/>I just had a great camping trip.BBChttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15323188240580782454noreply@blogger.com